Which Jobs are COVID-19 proof
What does the future job market hold?

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Recorded live Monday 13th April 2020

We are not living in unprecedented times It’s true we have never seen this level of global pandemic before and our response to it is unique and profound, but humans have lived through great tragedies before: Bubonic  Plague (200 million died), Smallpox (56 million died), Cholera (6 million died), HIV (35 million died). Not for a second am I making light of our past or current human tragedies, or forgetting the human toll it has and is inflicting. But rather I’m actively choosing to get myself through today and tomorrow by acknowledging what is happening, do all I can do to keep myself and others safe and healthy and importantly hanging on to the one beacon of light we have that there has been precedent for mass tragedy and that after each seemingly overwhelming impossible-to-overcome tragedy we have collectively and individually forced ourselves to refocus, overcome, rebuild, and continue on, because there simply was / is no better choice. And we will do it again!!!! We will start right now, by acknowledging the fear that has overcome us all, grieving for who we might have been, had and become had it not been for Covid-19 and then re-purpose all of this negative energy by turning it into a powerful beacon of positive hope in search of better times ahead. In tonight’s webinar David Southwick MP Member of Caulfield and I explore what better times may look like including: * the view and opportunities ahead * what a post Covid-19 job and business world may look like * the current and post Covid-19 hidden job markets and industries * why a diversified task, job, career and business portfolio is the only way to future proof your income * a 5 week plan guaranteed to get you back on track and ready for whatever post Covid-19 opportunities are ahead.

Transcript:

[00:00:00] David Southwick: [00:00:00] well, good evening everyone, and thanks for tuning in.

What now? What next? Uh, just before I get onto it, I get into what with Morris. I wanted to just, I stopped by. Uh, thanking everybody for all the great, uh, wishes that you’ve provided to me over the last weeks. And, and also thank everybody for the work and efforts that we’ve all put in during what is a hugely tough time for all of us.

It’s unprecedented what we’ve all been going through. Um, one thought at the back of, you know, January coming in after, after, um, seeing in the 20, 20 that we would have been in such a situation that we’re currently. But, uh, but these, these, these things certainly bring the best out of all of us. And those, these are really good at sticking together and, and, and giving, um, giving one another support.

And I think that’s what we’re saying. And, uh, and well done to everybody. Uh, what we’re proposing to do with these lives is we’re looking at [00:01:00] having a Radler Monday night fishing. And, uh, basically we’ll give this to go ideally on Monday nights at seven o’clock. I’d be really interested in those, watching him tonight, whether that is the time that foods, if you are happy with that, just send me a message and say, yay, great.

If you think about another alternative, let me know as well. They are the rules for these chats. Uh, what we’re planning on doing is they will be business focused. That will be opportunity driven. Uh, we have got enough negativity going on in the world. Uh, we’ve had a heap of it more than any of us can imagine.

And so the idea about these particular talks will be very much about, not problems, but opportunities. There’ll be about very much what we can do going forward. Uh, they will be not political. Uh, and that will be my one rule in my day is political. Everything that I do is political, but this is all about opportunity.

It’s about looking forward [00:02:00] and it’s about how we can help one another going forward. Post coven 19. And so I thought the best person that I could have thought to do something like this  Morris Miselowski and I have worked together in the past, the business days of, of a whole range of different collaborative activities.

And I thought maybe we’d bring the band back together. So we’ve done that tonight and Morris  was going to join me in future talks. Uh, we have special guests along the way to get a broader understanding about, you know, what lies ahead. Uh, what are the opportunities now and what are opportunities into the future?

  Morris Miselowski is a business futurist. he’s business is called Eye on the future. Uh, Morris, how long has that business been going for?

30 years. So you probably know a little bit about what you’re talking about. Let’s just say, and we were talking before that you’ve traveled the world. You’ve been giving talks on stages in [00:03:00] countries far and wide, uh, and presentations in many corporate boardrooms. But my very first question to you, Morris is, what is a business futurist?

And does a business futurist ensure that you’ll be able to provide the weekly Tesla lotto numbers.

Morris Miselowski: [00:03:17] Tlet’s see. But I haven’t been able to so far, even in thirty years. But look, a business futurist is somebody who has a pragmatic view of what’s likely to come up ahead.

It’s not about being clairvoyant. It’s not about being particularly clever. I’m managed to spend every moment of every day thinking about what’s ahead, visiting all sorts of universities and tech hubs, talking to all sorts of people, working in and out of universities. Really immersing myself in what might be ahead.

To me, it’s a conversation about what vet industry, that client, that person might see ahead in advance of them actually seeing it. So in many ways, I’m like a scout, you know, they send me off ahead to figure out what might be there so that they can get ready for it. And my [00:04:00] clients use my services to be able to position their products, their services, their people, and whatever they need to do ahead of the marketplace and needing it so that when marketplace realizes there’s a need there, they’re ready to go.

That’s a broad thing, and I’ve done about 160 industries in my time. I’ve looked at many, many areas. And before to go on to the next question, I don’t want to take you to task on one thing so far in the opening. And you know, I do this often when we get together. It’s the word unprecedented. Yeah. And how it’s been thrown around.

And you know, my bugbear about getting stuck on words, cause I think words are really powerful. The words that we use and the thoughts that we have really dictate the vision and the dream that we might think about or want to have for the future. And the reason I say it’s not unprecedented is not because what we’re going through, we’ve seen before because we haven’t, it’s terrible.

It’s terrible, I don’t make light of it in any way whatsoever. But I do take the task unprecedented because as human beings, you and I, unfortunately going back through millions [00:05:00] of years have seen tragedy on this planet. We’re seeing bubonic plague. We’re seeing smallpox, we’ve seen cholera, we’ve seen all kinds of things, devastate huge communities.

It’s different. It hasn’t been as global. The impact perhaps hasn’t been as well seen as it is today. But the reason I think it’s important to say that is because there is priestess. As humans, we have lived through the worst of times. We have seen what does worst of times have done to us. Jobs are falling away.

People have died. Families have disappeared. Nothing good to be said about any of them, but the reality is, despite all of that, we’ve come back. Humanity has come back. There’s been a new world after that and we have gone on to create that world and to have better times, and that’s why I refuse to say it’s unprecedented because we know that there are better times ahead.

We’ve lived through tragedy before. We’ve survived some better, some worse.

David Southwick: [00:05:54] It’s interesting you say that because a, I was only chatting to a Holocaust survivor a few weeks back [00:06:00] and they presented the biggest amount of hope that one could ever imagine. Uh, when, when I said to them, you know, like, um, how you feeling at the moment, uh, how you deal with dealing with all of this?

And they said, look, . We’ve seen the worst, and from what we’re saying and what we’re able to get through, we know that we’ll definitely be able to get through this. And it’s only a matter of time that we’ll be able to say the, the happy times ahead. So I think you’re absolutely right, Morris  it’s about looking, um, positively.

Um, we have had certainly challenges. Um, yeah. Uh, this one a little bit unusual, if you like, and certainly one that none of us, none of us ever predicted, was going to have a, not even a business futurist.

Morris Miselowski: [00:06:44] I don’t from a moment walk away from any of that, Dave. I mean, what we’re going through is terrible.

It’s absolutely terrible, but it is the mindset that we need to have, I think, to move this forward, you know, with your savings and to, as a first, as a first generation survivor of the Holocaust, meaning I wasn’t there, my parents worked, but I [00:07:00] was brought up with their mindset. I’ve been told since day one that there’s always a future.

There’s always a better tomorrow than there was yesterday. Even when we didn’t have, didn’t need, didn’t understand, didn’t know what tomorrow looked like. There was always the opportunity of shaping a tomorrow. That was different. My parents were like that. Your family was like that. We all came to Australia to make this world our world a better world after those kinds of tragedies, but let’s move on anyway.

David Southwick: [00:07:24] Absolutely. So, so one of the main motivations for tonight topic about, um, jobs, jobs on the here and now and also into the future was actually inspired from my daughter, Paige, who is doing an assignment at the moment. And she was looking at the, uh, the future job market from a young person’s perspective.

And so, uh, I’ve actually got her.  contention of the talk that she’s about to give in a few weeks time fires him at school and she, she, she’d suggest that seems that a number of businesses have closed and many jobs will be [00:08:00] lost. The young people, unless they innovate and prepare for the future. She did start this with a bit of a diary saying, um, in 2020, uh, when we’ve seen finally the last of COBIT, so at December, 2020, she called it.

They flagged it. She, uh, she, she talks about a whole lot of jobs that have been lost. A whole lot of, uh, uh, businesses are being lost. People without the financial means that they’ve had before. And what next is what she put it. And her diary entry then talks about, um, particularly the types of jobs that young people would have.

The types of jobs that a university student might have that would be tuning in tonight. The type of job, whether it be a barista, whether it be, um, working behind a bar, whether it be, you know, working as I do. Um, currently we’re gonna insert Mac, certainly in retail where a lot of retail jobs, uh, no longer, um, we’ve talked about some [00:09:00] of have, but one of the things that she frames is 70% of businesses in the hospitality sector have reduced their hours.

And a young people up to 43% of those jobs. But young people have a no longer being. Some will bounce back many word.

Morris Miselowski: [00:09:18] What

are

David Southwick: [00:09:18] your thoughts around particularly the jobs for young people that would certainly help them in supplying the income while they’re at uni or while they’re doing something else and, um, and, and what we’re experiencing right

Morris Miselowski: [00:09:32] now.

So, so many conversations they have and we’re going to spend the next little while. I’ve got some lists for you jobs that I think are still around and still viable jobs that will be around as soon as we get past this next phase, and also careers and jobs that I think will disappear. So I want to come to that specific list in just a couple of moments with you when we travel through and have a space and have a really good deep dive into what they may be.

But can I give you a more general framing to start with of how I see the [00:10:00] near future. Of this world and especially Australia. Yeah. Our reality is quite stark and I’m not a person normally talks that way. We have 2.3 million businesses in Australia at the moment, or we had before. This was February, 2020 my take on it is the 12% or 276,000 businesses will not come back.

They just won’t survive. A number of them were having difficulty before. A number of them have been impacted by this and number will decide it’s all just too much and they’ll move on. Some will find better opportunity elsewhere, but that’s a huge amount of displacement in the business landscape. When we talk about employment, we’ve got just over or we have again, sorry.

We had February, 2020 the abs told us we had just over 13 million people employed full time employment in Australia and around employment was sitting somewhere quite low. Fours and fives, I think for the next six months. Next 12 months, but six months for sure. We’re going to ride somewhere [00:11:00] around 30% unemployment.

Yeah. That doesn’t mean those people will not have jobs because I think maybe a half off. In other words, I think there’s about. 10 12% unemployment is what the figures will show, but the reason I’m up to 30 is because many people will be left in a position or a job they’re not quite comfortable with, don’t want to be in, they’re underutilized, they’re not fully using their capacity, or they’re doing something they just don’t want to be in at all.

So they’re not in a happy place, not in a happy workload. So it’s going to take us a while to work through all of this to get back to the equilibrium. That we’ve kind of been used to in Australia because we have had a very good run and I hope we’ll continue into the future. That’s the first start landscape.

I think we need to admit. The other reality for me, and again, this is my, this is only my view, by no means am I an expert in this goal. I mean like everybody else, I’ve learned about this disease. I’m in the last three or four months, but everything I’ve read, everybody I’ve spoken to around the planet kind of tells me the consistent message.

That [00:12:00] this is a weakest link event, meaning fat, until the last person is immunized until we figured out what to do. This will remain with us for quite a period of time. So our conversation tonight is not necessarily just about this period that we’re going through, but I think the reality that we will go through similar, better, worse, longer, deeper periods down the track and depending on how we react and what we achieve now.

Will really be about, we’ll show us what those future landscapes may be. We

David Southwick: [00:12:29] had a conversation, we had a conversation the other day, and we both actually land on the same thing of these period is a bit like a mourning process in which, uh, you kind of, you’re waking up and you’re grieving. Your, your, your workout.

Well, what next? What am I doing? I mean, is that kind of where you would see things that now, you know, we need to be able to get over this to get our heads clear so we can move on.

Morris Miselowski: [00:12:52] So that’s exactly it. What I haven’t heard a lot about is the exactly as you just said, but we are going through a grieving process.

We had a loss. The loss [00:13:00] was us. It was who we are, what we saw ourselves as being, and what our future would be. That’s been taken away from us. It doesn’t mean we won’t have one, but we had a dream. And that dream’s been interrupted. So we need to get through that period. We need to allow ourselves the time and give ourselves permission to mourn a little bit.

And then when we get past that, and it may take some people longer than others, but when we get past all through that, when you start considering who we want to be after this phase, I really talk about it and it’s, it’s a rule of thumb I’ve used for forever is who we were before. We know now, before coven, we know who we were and what we did.

We also now have an understanding of what we might have to be in order to survive this. And we’re rolling with the punches literally as we’re told or asked to do things or the world changes around us. And that is really for us only to react. But the last thing, the thing that you and I are talking about tonight and in future weeks, is who do we want to become.

After this event, who do we want to [00:14:00] be post covert 19 and this is an opportunity to press a reset and reboot for all of us in our personal lives, in our financial lives and our business lives. It’s not easy and not for a moment that my pretending it is, but we will have to reinvent who we want to be.

And why don’t we try and reinvent the most glorious possibility if we want to be.

David Southwick: [00:14:20] So if you’ve just joined us, I’m talking to  Morris Miselowski who’s a business futurist, and we’re discussing tonight, um, jobs, the opportunities for here now and into the future. Yeah. And at the very end of these talk, I know Morris is going to give us some tips in terms of what is the practical strategies that we can take away from this to get, you know, employment effectively tomorrow in five days and in a few months.

So the real, the real, if you like, as we would call it, tactless the real, real stuff that we can apply in our daily lives. Morris, one of the things that, uh, that really hit me pretty [00:15:00] hard was. A call that I had about four weeks ago. Well, every day has been a call from businesses that have been struggling, not being able to pay the bills, um, businesses closing business and not paying their laces.

I had a call from, uh, action event, which provide a lot of the, uh, the, the industries in, in amusement rides that you would say at school fetes and the Royal Melbourne show and what have you.

Morris Miselowski: [00:15:25] Well, I went down and these are the thing. And uh, it was interesting actually seeing what they were doing. And they have lost four to 6,000 jobs in their industry alone already.

David Southwick: [00:15:36] Uh, one of the examples was a Ferris wheel. One of the businesses had taken delivery from, it was on the ship on the Wharf that, uh, that was $3 million worth that they had to pay $300,000 GST just to get that. Ferris wheel. I put it on a truck that would tie it to the Sydney show, and then all of a sudden [00:16:00] all the shows were off.

The Sydney show was off. I turned eyes, doesn’t show tracks back. And that was the end of that business. That business alone with a number of other businesses in the entertainment industry and are longer for the moment. Morris, where do you say those businesses. Fast forward post covered as either climbs the businesses that will bounce back because people need the smile on their face.

People need entertainment. They will need that joy back to their lives.

Morris Miselowski: [00:16:28] I think they will. I think we’re looking at it. I think we’re looking at the end of this year, maybe into next year, unless we can hasten things. And as we’re being told, the reality is, you said is that humans are herd animals. Who doesn’t?

H. E. R. D. we like to be together. We like to be in congregations, even though now we’re, we’re reaching virtually out to people. We want to physically be next to each other, and that’s why I think industries where we have human to human connection will definitely make a comeback and it won’t take too long for that to happen.

We’ll also have a [00:17:00] whole lot of industries on the comeback trail quite quickly because I referred to was revenge industries and revenge industry. For me, and I love that word, is really like our new year’s Eve resolution. You know, we all stand there at 1155 on new year’s Eve and we say, next year I’m going to lose weight.

I’m going to grow my hair back, I’m going to do something else, and we make that promise to ourselves. I bet. I know I am. I’m sure you are, Dave, and all of our listeners have all made a promise to themselves of what they’re going to do after covert, as soon as we’re allowed to do whatever it is that needs to be done.

The reality is those revenge industries will be things like restaurants. There’ll be things like hospitality, there’ll be things like going to an event, going out with people, perhaps having a haircut, perhaps doing the things that we weren’t in. We weren’t allowed to do now. So the first rung, and it will last for about, well, definitely from a day one of course, I think it will last about a month or so.

We will find a huge increase. In those rivers, in those revenge industries, things that we can quickly go back. The proof were kind of normal. Again, [00:18:00] we’ve got that little bit of quality of life and perhaps your Ferris wheel might take a little bit longer because it involves many people being together, and I’m not sure what that will look like until many people can get together, but where we can have one, two, three, or four, and where we can have things like our restaurants open, I think those things will come back first and that’s where we’ll see our revenge.

And again, talked about the, said it already. We’re getting to a list very quickly now of the sorts of other industries that are likely to ride very quickly as we move through the next weeks and months.

David Southwick: [00:18:30] Uh, we’ve had, uh, had a question in from Chantelle and Chantelle says, during the challenging times, businesses have had to adapt, downsizing or moving stuff of thought.

Morris Miselowski: [00:18:42] How do you say business

David Southwick: [00:18:43] operations  after these pandemic, for example, businesses realizing they’re required fewer staff than before it produced the same outputs or businesses moving to an online platform rather than a bricks and mortar structure, which is a great question. And, um, I [00:19:00] think what I’d say also the Shantelle is, and businesses who before would say that everyone has to be in the actual place of employment.

And now people being able to work from home. Offers a whole new, interesting paradigm. And I know certainly in our business, in, in, in, um, in our electorate, my staff are working from home and I think it’s actually working quite

Morris Miselowski: [00:19:22] well. Well, Dave, sit back. We’re about to spend the next 12 hours going back over history because you and I for about 12 years, have talked about the reality of today.

Look as a business future. It’s a thing that I hear all the time on stage in boardrooms, in the media is we can’t do it. We have legacy systems. This is the way it’s always been done. It’s too difficult to dismantle. It’s a great idea to go online, but it’s not for us. Look at how quickly we’ve moved into that space.

All the things we said we couldn’t do. We did because we were forced to do them and we did them so quickly. Literally overnight, we put the entire education, the health system online between the space of weeks. [00:20:00] Technology wasn’t invented to do any of this, by the way. It’s been there forever. It’s just that we as a collective have decided it wasn’t off merit to put time and effort into making it.

So now we all have lived experiences federal for worse of technology of online. We’ve realized it’s not the end of the world at all. So I’m moving forward. One of the things Shantelle that we’ll definitely have is a new blended world where we have physical and virtual and they both exist. There’s not really in the conversation about labeling them.

What we’re asking ourselves is where is the best place to do whatever we need to do and wherever the best place time to do either of those things or whatever those things are is where we will do them. The other thing Shantelle for me is it is a philosophy I’ve had for quite a long time, but now on absolutely sure.

When we, part of our landscape, and this is a rule of thumb and average rule of salmon, what I share with corporates and others moving forward, we’re going to have about 60% of our workforce that will be permanently attached to us. [00:21:00] So they will be the people that carry the call, the ethos, the soul, and the day to day work of a corporation.

The other 20% of the work is going to be done by technology and the technology we have today, of course includes our computers, artificial intelligence, robots and drones, and all the other things that we thought were the devil incarnate that we’re now learning are really only tools for us to use. And the last percent, the last 20% is contingent.

Itinerant or gig workers. In other words, people that we bring in specifically for their skills, they come and join us for as long as we’ve been needed and when needed, and then they go on and work for somebody else. So 60 20 20 is a rule that I think we’ll see a lot more of into the future. And it’s a rule that sustains us through these periods as well, because it means we can switch in and out of any of those three sectors have more or less of them as we need them.

David Southwick: [00:21:56] So, uh, and I know we’re going to get into some of the skills that, uh, [00:22:00] young people and us probably as all people, uh, will need going forward. And there’s some great opportunities, um, and some resources that you’re going to share with us shortly in terms of how people can be upskilling during these times.

Uh, what I wanted to have a quick look at now Morris’s some of the businesses at the moment that are currently struggling. Um, and then, uh, I know that you’ve prepared some lists that we can go through in terms of where are those businesses that or effectively the brain really hit hardest, um, from covered, where are the businesses that are actually adapting?

And then where are the, where are the opportunities ahead for future businesses?

Morris Miselowski: [00:22:37] So let’s have a look. So I’ve got, here’s one I prepared earlier, as I say, so here’s, here’s a series of slides that will take us through that, because those are the sitting there taking notes. Please don’t please sit back in the notes you’ll get from Dave after this.

I’ll send you a link and you’ll be able to have a look at all of these slides in more detail. So the slides will be available to you in the notes you get afterwards, but let’s have a chat about them and see the [00:23:00] jobs as jobs and industries, as you said, that are likely to rise, those that’ll fail on those that I think we should be jumping in right now.

Yeah. As an advance of doing these, I need to thank Dave Storton. He’s, this is basically his list that I have adapted, put together an incredibly wonderful list. So thanks to Dave for doing that. So. Let’s have a look. Firstly, at the industries that have been impacted by kind of a 19 I mean, these are the ones that have really been decimated and they won’t be many surprises in this.

The travel and tourism industry, of course, is one that is, has been decimated. I think, I mean, I know we’ll come back, travel and airplanes may take longer than other things. My thought is that we most probably will not travel overseas for a while, but what I’m seeing is, for instance, in Victoria that we most probably within three months, four months, again, not doing policy, that’s your big day, but my suggestion, whatever that period of time is, will most probably be allowed to have intra state.

In other words, we be able to travel within the [00:24:00] state and our first port of call will be all those wonderful places in Victoria. That we can travel and then we’ll go interstate and then eventually the borders will open up.

David Southwick: [00:24:07] Can, can I just add to that too? I mean, obviously we came off the other horror of the bushfires.

And a lot of those areas hadn’t or still haven’t recovered. They’ve got a fair way to go from that. So if there is anything that can be positive out of all of these, the opportunity to go back to many of those bushfire effected areas and to restart some of the tourism that’s really needed in some of those areas.

Morris Miselowski: [00:24:29] So if I’m right, local tourism, get ready. I can’t tell you what’s tomorrow because that’s up to governor. Tell us when we’re allowed to do it. It may be months away, but I’m fairly certain with our first port of activity will be local state traveling within our borders, so I think that will come back. But until then, of course, it’s a very difficult industry to be in.

Group events and activities, as you said, is one also. That’s fallen away. Hospitality’s falling away. Education as we know it has fallen away, but strangely enough, in the next few slides, [00:25:00] I’m going to argue that education is actually on the rise, but in very different ways than we had before. But the industry that we knew in February going backwards certainly is in decline.

Personal services, things like nails, hair, beauty, cosmetic surgeries, or things we’re putting off for another day. So we’ll take a while to come back. And many traditional retailers also, as we’ve seen, have either closed or even before this had begun to close permanently. So there are lots of industries that we know that will not come back, may not come back or come back very differently.

And that’s kind of what that list speaks to.

David Southwick: [00:25:38] And, um. In terms of some of those businesses that I feel like I’m being coded proof, if you like. So they’re continuing on.

Morris Miselowski: [00:25:47] So there are some things that we just have to do regardless of what happens around us. There are all sorts of things that we as a society need done. Of course, government funded services have to continue.

We rely on you and the government and others [00:26:00] to make sure that we’re safe, we’re healthy, and that our welfare is taken care of. As an aside, I think the police force, for instance, is one that’s going to see a huge increase in numbers. We know that they’ve been trying to recruit heavily for years. It’s been difficult to find enough people to go into the police force if history is right after every major calamity, going back about 200 years in history after war and famine and disease.

We tend to find that to be a huge upswing in people entering the police force. One because it’s a career. It’s a steady career. It’s offered by the government. And two, because they want to give back to society. They feel that they’ve somehow been advantaged by what they went through society looking after them and sharing.

They now want to do the same. So I’m guessing police will actually bolster their numbers quite significantly in the next six, 12 months.

David Southwick: [00:26:50] And just on that, Morris, I think you know. Obviously these businesses will continue and bouts, and certainly when you talk about some of the government, uh, [00:27:00] services like policing.

You’re absolutely right. But where, where I would see a lot of this coming from is the way we go about things may very much differ. So we’re, we’ve had product covered this whole, uh, lack of respect of policing. Uh, there’s obviously, uh, some heavy handedness that’s been required in terms of getting people to do the right thing and follow things.

I think we’re actually move the other end beyond these two more community policing, having police. Enact communities back to the old fashioned, uh, policing place on the streets, uh, place. Being able to be there to help one another in policing schools. So it provides a whole range of opportunities to be able to connect place aimed a L Mitzi service of closer to where the people are.

So yeah, we’d probably say that in a lot of other areas, areas as

Morris Miselowski: [00:27:49] well. I would agree. And the purpose of these lists, Dave, as you said earlier when we introduced it, is not just to run through the list. What you and I and everyone that’s watching, listening now is trying to do, is [00:28:00] figure out how do we fit into this?

What skills, tasks? Talk more about that in a couple of moments too, but what skills or tasks to we have that we might be able to use in one of these industries? How can we shift or take advantage. That’s how I want us to look at these lists. Really. What does it mean for us? How will it impact on what we might be able to do?

So utilities, of course, I’m not going to disappear. We need the electricity, our gas, and our solar. The construction and building industry infrastructure will be evermore important, not only because we need it, but because it is a huge employer. It’s one of those things that speaks to the future. It gives us a direction and gives us employment.

So we’ll, we definitely have seen the ad. They have continued and will continue. I think we’ll have to see more of those big, big opportunities coming around. One that’s specific to this time. His technology, software businesses, and for me it’s really about those working from home. But you and I are now using zoom.

Zoom has moved into the thing of being a, now it really has [00:29:00] become a word of default, like Xerox or like Google, but these technologies that we’re using at home as we bring our businesses together, individuals coming together online were never really built for this volume. They weren’t built to do this.

We’re just using them for that. With these lived experiences that we are now having. I can tell you there are thousands, tens of thousands of people out there who are coding at the moment who are figuring out, well, this tweak, that business, this app, that thing would actually work really well in these circumstances.

And as we said, as businesses shift to this blended environment of part physical, part virtual, those new tools, those new apps, those new possibilities will definitely be off the system. The other thing behind this is that I’m. Absolutely certain that out of covert 19 as horrible as it may sound, we will find our next billionaire and maybe more than one bit in there, somebody well come up with a concept of business, an idea, a methodology that we think is [00:30:00] incredible and they will grow a business around it.

It could be any one of us listening. So again, that’s the opportunity of tonight and again, as you can see, local manufacturing is one of them, as is mining and resource.

David Southwick: [00:30:12] Interesting. Uh, at the moment we’re saying so many businesses in the, in the, uh, local manufacturing with, uh, various forms of hand sanitizers and what have you.

Uh, I don’t know how many businesses are spray up there, but having said that, uh, is somebody that had a health and beauty business product politics. I think there’s going to be call for this going forward. People’s personal hygiene will be an important thing, um, out of one of the, uh, one of the outcomes of all of these.

And so those people that have rushed off and doing that, then, um, then I think, you know, that will, that will certainly continue it. And also locally, we’ve seen some opportunities. I know a clothing business manufacturer fell a Hamilton. Which is probably known to many people that are listening [00:31:00] tonight. A fellow Hamilton have now gone into, um, producing PPA, um, uh, gear for, um, the many of the nurses and what have you, um, scrub, scrub, uh, uh, gear.

So that’s allowing them to evolve into a new market while also being able to keep people employed. And

Morris Miselowski: [00:31:19] that that is so important that that’s remanufacturing. That’s the notion and which is something that I’m loving and had something I’m hoping we will carry on. Again, I said to you though, that I’ve heard for so many decades, we can’t, we don’t, it’s not what we do.

It’s not what we have and what we’ve seen in the last two months is the will that really doesn’t matter. The question, the more important thing to answer is what can we do with what we have? And fella Hamilton’s a really good example, as are lots of others who have taken their production lines and thought, well, what we’ve done really isn’t all that necessary at the moment, but we’ve got the cleverness.

We’ve got the logistics of being able to do lots of things. What could we do right now that we can take advantage of? And manufacturing [00:32:00] needs to come back to Australia on that mindset. Yes. What we did before was important. Yes, there might be a marketplace, what we already manufacture, but what else can we do that might make a huge difference that could bring in the next industry for us?

David Southwick: [00:32:14] Absolutely. And moving that list out to, um, to some of the businesses that . We’ll grow and move forward. The opportunities.

Morris Miselowski: [00:32:23] Yeah, so this is, this is a list. I mean, the list goes on and I know it’s very small writing and again, you’ll have the link. I like the fact that small writing, because it means it’s so long.

I’ve heard a lot of doom and gloom and yes there is. And I know people who’ve lost jobs. We’ve said all of that, but there are still jobs out there. There are still things that we can do. Can I spend just a moment talking about the mindset behind this and then move on to the list itself? So to me, I think for many of us that our careers need to go on a temporary hold.

I know that’s a difficult message, and I’m not saying forever. I’m saying on a temporary hold because I’ve said to you already that [00:33:00] we are mourning for who we are. Some people will be lucky enough to ride this through with their existing career with very, very little change. But for many of us that won’t be true.

So that Korean needs to go on hold and we need to think more about the immediacy of what we’re doing, who we are, and what we can do. And that’s why I think we move away from careers temporarily. We might even move away from jobs temporarily because a job is a nine to five connotation of having somebody else give us enough work to fill in a week that we then exchanged for money again, if we can get that, that’s terrific.

But the mindset for us, and I think moving forward, I’ve actually said this for many, many years, but especially now, is that we have to consider ourselves our own small business. We have to be task oriented. Our own small business means we can work for somebody else. We can still be what we were before, but the way we think our mind takes us to, what skills can I sell.

Retail. In other words, what skills do I have that can come [00:34:00] together as a job that gets me to the traditional nine to five if that’s what I want. But what jobs do I have to wholesale? What tasks do I have to wholesale? In other words, if I’m an accountant, but I really love gardening, but I’ve never made money out of it.

You, but my garden’s incredible. I’m not now in this period of time, look for some gardening, or maybe I do some delivery, or maybe I slipped something and I sell it in Etsy and we’ll have a look at those in a couple of moments too. So we really need to strip ourselves back, strip ourselves back, career on hold for those that where that’s necessary.

Jobs look for them, and they may be around, but more difficult to find. But the thing that you and I can control where we have our own small business is to look for tasks, go into spaces, and see if there’s single activities that we can make money from. And maybe down in the last an hour or two, and we’ve got to find something else and we’ve got to stitch it together.

It’s the Copeland’s. Of having a, of having a financial portfolio. If you go to anybody, again, not giving advice, but if you go to anybody that I think is solid, [00:35:00] they’ll tell you to spread the risk. Put some in shares, summon some in money, some in property maybe, but share the risk. That’s what this is about.

Sharing the risks. That you’ve always got a possibility, a way to make some income, and not just income, but you also want to keep alive and active. You also want to keep your mind stimulated. That’s just as important in these times. So going back to my list, these are not meant to be careers necessarily.

They’re not even meant to be jobs, but they’re opportunities. These are things that are riding that I know is still looking for people looking to make money and they need people with a task mentality to come in and join them for as long or as short. As by seeing necessary. So with that in mind, let’s move on.

David Southwick: [00:35:43] So Morris, basically what you’re saying is, uh, years back, we used to talk a about, uh, that we would outsource everything, you know, that we would be any, in fact, one of the great books that I read back in 2014 with, uh, something by Jeremy Rifkin called zero marginal [00:36:00] cost and zero marginal cost talks a lot about, uh, that we’ll get to a point with artificial intelligence and with robots and all the rest of it.

Where.  spicy chores will be done by effectively robots. We will be able to use our time in, um, in specific types of tasks, and we would charge that out. We would contract ourselves out, and the traditional five day a week job would not no along the Bay. And we would effectively work in whatever hours.  we want to do in a contract scenario.

So are you suggesting that that that contractual, that outsource I worked for us is something that we should be considering right now? And where does that lead in terms of that particular opportunity going into the future?

Morris Miselowski: [00:36:48] So I think it’s absolutely something, but I’ve said that for years. I think we’ve always had to look at it.

The deadly, the important thing is that the future you and I are creating, we’re all creating. Listening to this is not where one size fits all. There will be [00:37:00] lots of people that will prefer and industries that would also prefer the nine to five model, and that makes perfect sense for them. We have emergency service people that need to work in a particular way, in a particular manner, in a particular place.

So. So I don’t ever want to live in a world where we’re totally prescriptive, which is kind of what we’ve had for the last 150 years. One model fits all. What we’re allowing ourselves to do is really not to loosen that up and to be more concerned about output. Input. So we’re really looking at the task or the jobs that have to be done.

We’re admitting that adults are doing them. We’re making them responsible for what needs to be done, and we’re measuring them by how it’s been done at the end, not by the input. So I’m talking about a reality where a number of people will work in this. Portfolio away and have a myriad of income streams.

Some people will permanently want to be part of this gig or transitory workplace, and others, quite rightly, will prefer the nine to five. All of that is possible, but right now, today, for me, the [00:38:00] answer is that if we don’t have the luxury of those other things and many of us don’t, but really what we owe ourselves is to explore the task world, that world of contingent worker and see if we can make that full.

Now. Works for us. So, so if you were in

David Southwick: [00:38:14] a situation where you’re out of work, uh, the job that you had yesterday is no longer here today, thanks to the pandemic, we’re all experiencing, what would be the first place that you would send someone that could potentially take them to utilize a skill that they may have.

Or where would they go to be able to acquire a skill that they may need.

Morris Miselowski: [00:38:36] Okay, so first, can I take it back just one step? To answer your question, each of us needs to answer an earlier question and

David Southwick: [00:38:43] we want to go off this green, Morris, so we get you on the broader thing. Perfect.

Morris Miselowski: [00:38:50] Alright. So the first thing is that we need to really come back a step and ask ourselves, what is it that we do?

What, what? What are our tasks? What is it that we can go [00:39:00] on and sell to other people? And that’s a really important activity. Can I say that for most of us, what we’re talking about is the normal on the Monday and the things that we thought we would never be able to sell. In fact, we can drive a car. It means at the moment that.

Domino’s is looking for and so many other people to deliver food. No, it’s not what many of us have dreamed about for our lives. It’s certainly not what we’ve talked to our children about longterm. Not that there’s anything wrong with it, but it doesn’t, it doesn’t fit into everybody’s career model, but right now, the fact that you can drive a car, I mean, you should be looking inside of industries that are looking for people to deliver that whole logistics space.

If you’re able to communicate, if you were somebody who was in customer service, somebody perhaps on an airline or somebody that was a receptionist, what you need to be out, what you need to take out of that is your core skill is a human to human contact and see if there are call centers or places that can use that skill in a different way.

Again, you’re not looking for the lifelong commitment. You’re not looking for absolutely being happy every time you hang up the phone. Or every time you come [00:40:00] home. And I know that’s not a joyful thing to say for us, but this is not a joyful time. We’re making compromise all the way through. So my answer to you, they firstly is figure out who we are.

Figured out, literally do an audit skill of all the mundane things that you can do. And they’re not mundane except to you. I mean, everybody else thinks they’re extraordinary. And then look for industries like the list we had up before those industries that use those skills and then begin either to make direct contact with them.

Literally direct contact or go back into the seeks and others. But I’m finding the Sikhs and all the others, as wonderful as they are and they are, are more towards jobs and careers, not charged. So it’s

David Southwick: [00:40:39] like, could I just the example of this, cause I think that’s totally spot on. What happens in these times is people will look for any kinds of flexibility.

So where you may not be able to get through the door in, in, in presenting something before that opportunity is now presenting itself because people are desperate. People want to keep their businesses going. [00:41:00] So, uh, for an example, if a business that may not, I know you, you had a conversation with me before that a business, uh, cafe wasn’t in takeaway food.

I have moved, their business seems to take away,

Morris Miselowski: [00:41:13] okay.

We have frozen Dave.

So Dave, I think is frozen for the moment, will unfreeze himself. The example he was giving you was one of the hospitality businesses I become aware of in the last few weeks. It’s a business name that you and I all know, and it was primarily one that we went to for experience very upmarket. They decided a little bit after everybody else, about two weeks after everybody else started to do deliveries that they would go into delivery.

And over the last few weeks, I’ve been making some serious dollars and employing people again into producing the takeaway meals. Quite an incredible shift [00:42:00] in the world and the way that they operate and the money that they’re able to make. So. The reality is the, what we need to do right now is to look at the world slightly differently.

Again, come back to our skill, our core skills of who we are and what we are and what we might be able to do and begin to look at some of the ways that we can do it. So to go back to that list. So we talked about before, and again, if you want this list, it’ll be in the link with the notes as they come out.

They come to you afterwards. But there are things like online stores now that are growing. We have virtual consulting. We have doctors who are beginning to understand what they might have to do to offer e-health. We have tech tools and software that are riding around. We have lots of people sitting at home at the moment who are looking at ways that they can improve their homes.

David Southwick: [00:42:52] Oh, I lost you for a minute, but I think we’re back.

Morris Miselowski: [00:42:55] I was tap dancing for your day, so I was talking about, I finished off your example [00:43:00] and we were just having a look at the list again, just to get one or two of the sorts of industries for the things we were talking about where you might rightly go knock on the door.

Or say to them, he didn’t think of me before, but I could do this for you and that would be helpful for both of us.

So we have all sorts of different industries there. As you can see, logistics is a growing one book selling. Even though the retail stores have closed, many of them have gone online and now delivering bike shops and making an absolute Motsa at the moment. Lots of people are back on their bikes. So again.

Take this list when you get the link and have a look through it and ask yourself the questions, do you have skills that you could sell into this space? Are there things that you can offer to these sorts of businesses?

David Southwick: [00:43:53] Sorry, I’ve lost her. Damn. So I’m back now. .

Morris Miselowski: [00:43:59] The main thing is you’re [00:44:00] back with is Dave never liked the reason you, sorry. We’re having a look. Then we had to look at the previous list and has some of those examples and when that we were going to talk now about the next phase, whenever that next phase is a month, two months, three months, whenever we begin to loosen the shackles a little bit and we get let out of our homes and we all run out like crazy people and we start to begin again to refashion and remold the world.

And these are the industries you and I talked about as being most probably the first rank, the first off the cab rank of industries. That might be, but we might start spending it again.

David Southwick: [00:44:37] Uh, just said, uh, somebody no. M Rose and made a very good point. Just as she said, not political, but we need an NBN upgrade.

Uh, I’ve got to agree with her on that one. Sorry. Keep going.

Morris Miselowski: [00:44:48] I have no comment. Otherwise we will be here till midnight job jobs into the future jobs that we might be looking at after [00:45:00] this thing moves into its next phase where we become more communal. Again, I’ve said a lot of these are going to be revenge jobs.

I wasn’t going to be things that we’ve needed to do. So if you’re in this space, it’s not necessarily going to help you put food on the table today, but I asked you to keep up. The smile because we will come back to you as soon as we can for these types of things. So being ready for us when we do I, it’ll be difficult.

I know that for some of us, we had to shadow. We’ve had to hibernate. We’ve had to let people off. All of those things might be necessary to get us through today, but for tomorrow, you’ve got to be prepared in as many ways as possible for what will be a return. And you can see there, my list includes removal list.

It includes repairs and maintenance, which we’re all looking around our home and asking ourselves, you know, when can we get to them or the car. I mean, once we start using our cars again, it’s mean a whole lot of people that need their car serviced again. And going back to yours, lipstick and beauty supply, Dave, just for you, I think that’s an industry that we’ll go back into.

[00:46:00] We want to put a bit more glamour into our lives and spruce ourselves up a bit. We’ve also got things like delivery services, payday lending, lots of jobs, lots of job industries. Again, purposes. Do we have the task capability of adding something to these businesses? Can we go knocking on their door and saying, look, I’m Morris, I’m ready to do this thing for you.

This is why you need it, and I’ve got the skillset to be able to make that happen for you. How do we collaborate in this time to get us both through it?

David Southwick: [00:46:29] Yeah. Um, T cherry, uh, asked a very important question as well about, um, uh, what we’re talking about with advice of going and looking for a job. And this is the one for me actually is illegal to go around looking for work.

And it’s a good point in terms of we’ve got our directives in terms of what we are and I, and, and, and able to do at the moment. Um, well, I, my thoughts on this would be, um, certainly. If you’re going to a workplace, you know, to have an interview to [00:47:00] get a job, then that’d be pretty, pretty clear to me that, uh, that, that the intended the attendees to get word.

So, um, I personally don’t think that there would be an issue, uh, and that you would be able to do that. So that would be my point to Jerry. Go for it. Um, we need you out there. We need you employed. I’m obviously doing it following all the other rules that we’ve got. Um, and providing, you’re following those rules, then I think, you know, for somebody that’s going at, uh, for a job interview to get a job, then we need all that right now.

And if there was an opportunity present, you’d go after it.

Morris Miselowski: [00:47:36] And remember the virtual world, the one you and I are using right

David Southwick: [00:47:38] now.

Morris Miselowski: [00:47:39] So beforehand, Jerry might, we might’ve felt a bit uncomfortable making a call, organizing a FaceTime or what, or a Skype call. Now it’s extremely business as normal. So both, both are absolutely available to you.

You need to find the right tool at the right time for the right person you want to contact.

David Southwick: [00:47:56] Absolutely.

Morris Miselowski: [00:47:57] All right. So, um. Well

[00:48:00] David Southwick: [00:47:59] conscious of the time, and we’ve got so much to talk about and our people have been asking a whole lot of questions are tuning in. And for those that have just joined us, I’m talking to Morris who is a business futurist.

Morris is going to be my guest as a regular weekly Monday nights at 7:00 PM so if you’ve missed tonight, then certainly we’ll get you back next week. For those that have missed it. Next week’s guest is going to be Judith David, who is Thai site psychologist. And she’ll be talking about the, uh, mindfulness and the positive mindset and, uh, another, that’s something that you find is an important thing, Morris, that we’ve got to have the right attitude, um, particularly in these times.

Do you, do you want to comment about that?

Morris Miselowski: [00:48:45] Well, I think it’s integral. We started that conversation by saying that, and I’ve kind of peppered this whole conversation by reinforcing that, but the realities that you and I, the human makes a decision and we can sit and wallow and it’s, it’s very easy to do that.

And of course [00:49:00] I would see why we could be doing that, but the only way we’re going to move forward is collectively, it is our mindset. It’s our ability to understand and to accept that what we’re going through now is terrible and that many of us are facing calamity and issue. But none of us ever wish on anybody else.

All of that’s a given. Don’t make light of that for a second, but the thing I know, and I’ve spent 20 years as a crisis counselor, is that until we begin to see a future, there isn’t one. Until we begin to believe that there is a future, there is a possibility. The light on the end is not a train coming on.

It literally is a light at the other end. That’s when we start to make progress. And next week, Dave, I’m hoping we can pick up on that. And really come down to a conversation of what it means to have that positive attitude and to take wellness into it. This isn’t an add on anymore. This is very much part of our lives.

It’s, it is self preservation. And only from that can we then begin to rebuild our jobs careers.

David Southwick: [00:49:57] Now, I did promise, uh, those that have been [00:50:00] listening, uh, that at the very end of that talk tonight, we would be able to provide some real tips of what people could do. Uh, that would assist. They mean firstly skilling up.

And then secondly, uh, I know that, uh, you, as you say, um, some of the, um, the tasks, all the, all the plan going forward. I think the way you call it is, um, the, uh, your own strategy if you like, uh, of, you know, what now what next. And so do you want to firstly, give us some of the skills that people could be going after?

Morris Miselowski: [00:50:36] So I put the skills into two baskets. One is longterm, one is short term. The long term is the reality is, you said earlier in our conversation date, we know that most of the transactionary the repetitive tasks to go into technology, and we’ll continue to do that forever now. So those sorts of tasks that we might want to have done really aren’t all that purposeful for us.

I have said in my talks about careers of the [00:51:00] future is that our kids, apart from the wonderful skills that we want to give them and the harnessing of their aptitude and attitude is it’s the human skills that are going to continue to sell way into the future. It’s our ability to collaborate. It’s our ability to communicate.

It’s our ability to think creatively that is really going to move us and advance us. In our career or in our jobs or in our task placement. So I’ll get to the other skills in the moment. But for me, it is always been about the human skills because that’s what technology can’t replicate. That’s what technology can’t offer.

And I want our children to have. Longevity in their career. So I’m saying to them that they will have to most probably advanced, and they know that and change and adapt and they’re comfortable with that. But the thing that they will take from one employer to another that will get them those rights, get them to rise and get them the job of tomorrow is their ability to be human.

So let’s not forget that that’s really important. That’s step [00:52:00] one. Step two, of course. I’m asking people now to be more task oriented, to think about what they can do at the moment, to be able to put food on table, have their mind think, and gives them a possibility of seeing a future. And I would suggest that if we can, if you have some time available and lots of us do at the moment, is let’s learn a new skill, literally a single task.

There’s lots of free ways to do that. Lots of free things that we can do. You can, for instance, go into places like you to me. Or you can go into Coursera and again, there’s a list of these places. When you get the notes, you can go into universities, Australia or open universities. Lots of them are offering courses either for free or for very limited, very, very small amount of money.

Google also offer courses. Look up free courses. They don’t want to call it  in double O C is what the technical languages. But what they allow you to do is to study online with a whole lot of other people or all by yourself and learn a new skillset. [00:53:00] Now is a terrific time to be able to do that. And I’m talking hours.

I’m not talking months or years. I’m talking hours. Literally learn a new skill. Medina, learn a skill a new couple of days, spread it out and figure out what does you want to do. Upskill yourself. It’ll help both now and into your future career.

David Southwick: [00:53:17] Terrific. And so, you know, one of the things that people can do in the next two weeks, so what, what’s, what’s.

They get off this chat tonight and they say, right, well I’m fired up. I’m positive, I’ve got a positive attitude. And when I really grabbed the bull by the ones here and go forward, so what next?

Morris Miselowski: [00:53:34] So to me, I’ve taken it. I’ve taken a strategy that normally for me is a couple of years and condensed it down to five weeks.

I think that’s about as far out. Is we need to be thinking at the moment. This to me is a rolling strategy. As soon as there’s another announcement, as soon as there’s another constriction, or as soon as we’re allowed to do something, you have to go back to zero and start again. That’s really important because if we stop to think that we have set it in stone, then we’re only going to stumble and cause ourselves [00:54:00] how I’m at the other end.

So this is a rolling one. So to your point right now. If the were starting right now, number one is ensure your health, safety, and welfare. Nothing else makes any sense until you do that. Really make sure that you and your loved ones are as secure and safe as you can be. Have open conversations about mental health.

Are you okay? Can I do anything to help you and reach out to other people?

David Southwick: [00:54:23] Really inform you about that. Next week. And we’ll be talking about that as a gay element. Mixed word.

Morris Miselowski: [00:54:27] Absolutely. But until we do that, really nothing else makes sense. Then work through what you have and what you can do with what needs to be done.

So physically around your home. Do you know, do the audit, do we have enough food? We are not toilet paper? All that kind of stuff we’ve talked about from a career. What is your career? What is your job? What’s the situation of it? Now, I know you know the answer, but we’re being strategic now, so let’s actually voice it.

Let’s tell ourselves that at the moment on hold, it’s on hold for three months. I’m waiting for this so that we actually know how to measure and what the outcome might be, [00:55:00] and then begin your skill audit. So the skill ordered is what skills take apart your job description. Look at what is you enjoy doing, look at what activities you’re able to do with your hands, with your mind, and all sorts of other things.

And literally listed down. List down all the things that you love to do. Competent of will do if you have to and hate to do. But Gina, you know what, in the times now unprepared to do. List that out, and I know that sounds corny and a lot of work, but this is so important. Then work through the job finance and family.

What is, you’ve got to be realistic, you know, do you have two weeks? Do you have four weeks of saved money? Do you have two or four weeks of safe food? Can you, is there enough work around you at the moment to survive for a couple of weeks, a couple of months? You’ve really got to be honest with yourself.

Don’t need to tell anybody outside your door, but you need to be honest with yourself. And then rework your budget. So based on what you know and what you believe and what you think might happen, rework the budget two, three, six months. Continue to keep yourself and those around you safe, [00:56:00] and then begin to do what we talked about tonight.

Look for additional income streams. Once you’ve secured all of those things, you know what it is you want to do, what skill sets you have, then you begin to look five weeks out, two to five weeks. So reassess. Go through the list we’re done tonight. Go through our conversation, figure out the industries, the people around you, what you can do to start looking for work around tasks.

Shore up the job if that’s what you have worked with your current employer, and see what you might be able to go share what work you might be able to do. Look at other industries. Make context using network. Also begin to protect your finances. So I begin to look at the debts, whether you can put them on hold, do all those sorts of things.

One of the things that I would love you to do, and this is difficult, but it’s important, is work through the products. Not the more with what ifs, but the realistic what is, what if we have to continue like this for another two weeks, another four weeks, another six weeks, another eight weeks? How do I look at it as my job?

Look [00:57:00] as my tasks? Look, all of those are really important questions. It will tell you whether, how many tasks you looking for, how much money you’re looking for, what sort of work you want to do, and the rest of those activities. And I would also begin to develop personal and family plans for what’s next.

Don’t go back to what you did before. I don’t mean you shouldn’t go back to that industry or that thought process, but the world’s moved on. Spend this time to actively reimagine what the future looks like for you at your business or your work and your and your family. And lastly, five weeks. If we can get to five weeks day and we haven’t been able to for a couple of months, if we can get to five weeks, then we know we’re building a new normal.

We’re beginning to build a new normal. So assess your plan against that new normal, you know, is your job still around? Is your career still around? Did you enjoy working for tasks and wanting to go back what the finances look like? Begin to reassess budgets and goals? And the last point in that is create a new normal for [00:58:00] work and family.

You have to add, you have to, again, realize that what we had before, as good or as bad as it was, will not come back 100% the same way. So let’s verbalize, let’s actually plan as a family for what our future looks like. Who are we? What are we, how do we continue to communicate and live together as we have after the past few months?

And what does work life and love look like for all of us?

David Southwick: [00:58:24] So I think that is a really valuable, uh, listens and certainly tips for all of us. Uh, the thing that certainly comes to mind in the, uh, uh, tips that you’ve just provided, Morris, he’s flexibility, uh, that we need to be flexible in these times. We need to look for resources and we need to ask, and, uh, it’s, it’s probably the great place for us all sort of finish tonight, uh, by saying that.

Uh, I have had my offices head questions that I would have never imagined before. We have been inundated by people that are all [00:59:00] wanting help during these times. Um, and I would say to everybody out there that no matter who it is, certainly ring me at any time. We’ll provide whatever help that we can do.

everybody’s kind of really helping that during these times. So it’s the one thing that I think brings us back to say that. Uh, we’re all about helping one another app. And don’t be afraid to ask if you’re in an awkward spot right now. Uh, we all understand that this is a time that. It’s no one’s fault. You know, we’re, we’re, we’re, we’re basically there and we’re just got to get ourselves through it.

So together we’ll, we’ll remain strong, but we’ve got to be United and fight this through. And I think the positive outlook of what you’re presented tonight is really what this is all about, Morris. And that’s what we want to be able to do over the coming weeks. This is not, as I said right from the very beginning about this, there is no such thing as a problem.

Only an opportunity, and these talks are going to be about opportunities. They’re going to be about hope. You’re going to be at our about [01:00:00] opportunities, and hopefully they’re going to be some kind of inspiration to be able to get us through some of these tougher times. Into the better times ahead. So thank you.

Thank you, Morris. Um, I will let you have a, have another word, but, um, I also wanted to remind people that, uh, is seven o’clock is good time for you. Just let us know if you’re thinking that’s how you like another time, let us know as well. But at the moment, we’re going to stick to seven o’clock on Monday night.

I know that a number of people are pre-questions through and we haven’t had a chance to answer them tonight. But I will get back and answer you, uh, during the course of, uh, of, of, of the coming, uh, day. And also, please direct message me. Please message me with any questions that you may not have wanted to ask publicly.

made a follow up privately. We’re heavily do that as well. And also remember that next week we’re going to have do to David is a psychologist. Look at, uh, looking at, um, positive mindset. [01:01:00] Mindfulness. Getting a, seem to the frame of mind, as Maura said before, to ensure that we’re supported. To show that we are, have our family supported, and that we’re able to be able to look through the eyes of, uh, of, of a positive, uh, positive future ahead.

Morris did you want to save a few words in finishing.

Morris Miselowski: [01:01:21] All I can say is did our . I mean, absolutely. If I can help in any way, please, please just reach out. I’m always on your phone call or an email away. Please feel free to do that. I’d also love you to continue talking during the week on Facebook and let’s talk about some of the great examples I’d love next week to share some live examples of ways that we are overcoming things that we’re able to do.

Tell us about your hero story. Right? How you were able to find that task or that job in this time. Love to share those examples. So please continue to share and David, around our awkward circumstance in this case, it just isn’t, it’s just, it’s just what we’re all going through, as you said. So all we can do is to ask for help.

If ever there was a time on the planet, you will get it. It’s [01:02:00] right now. So please, this week. Please this week begin to think about the future if you haven’t already, but in a way where you are able to craft it, you are, you absolutely are capable of achieving a very different future. We will get through this.

It will be difficult that the other end it is ups is absolutely up to you to decide who you want to be when you grow up.

David Southwick: [01:02:22] Thank you. Well, thank you everybody for tuning in. Uh, and thank you for many of the messages that have come through. Thank you to you, uh, Morris for the positive words of inspiration.

Uh, remember the, uh, the eyes on our future. What’s the website?

Morris Miselowski: [01:02:37] Your website? It’s business futurist.com.

David Southwick: [01:02:40] BusinessFuturist.com please visit Morris’s website and a lot of the content you’ll see tonight will be there, and also we’ll be sharing that with you as well. Thank you everybody. I look forward to catching up with you again, same time next week, seven o’clock on Monday.

In the meantime, if there’s anything my office can do in terms of what’s going on at the moment [01:03:00] or anything in more generally, please reach out. Thanks very much. Have a good evening.

Morris Miselowski: [01:03:04] Bye everyone.

Bye.